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Annette Laing's avatar

With you, Dan. 1776 Project was obviously rubbish, but this historian (I'm going to say it) is no fan of the 1619 Project: The best that can be said of it is that the NYT got people talking about history, and African-American history in particular. Brits have always been able to compartmentalize Churchill (great war leader, not fit for purpose in peace) Britain's role in the slave trade was not a subject well understood when I took classes in the 70s... An American colleague has found evidence that the elite suppressed discussion of their role in the *17th century*, and I don't doubt it.

But my UK history education did give me the curiosity, literacy, and enthusiasm for nuance and contradiction that allowed me to discover for myself. In contrast, I had a professor in *grad school* here in the States who took umbrage when I gently suggested that the Constitution is flawed. Today, I'm certain, she's as woke as all get out. White Americans in particular, and those of class privilege especially, really have a tough time with honesty, especially honesty that's currently unfashionable.

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Allen Batchelar's avatar

Much of history is like sports, my team good, other teams bad, when the reality lies somewhere in between. To Brits Montgomery was the greatest General in WW II, but to the Americans he was a bumbling fool who slowed Allied progress. In Canada, we were taught that we won the War of 1812 while the Americans are positive they won. It all depends on what side of the fence you are on geographically, politically, socially, fiscally or whatever fence exists between one’s ‘reality’ and other ‘realities’.

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